Talk:If War Comes Tomorrow

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Grigorenko

I have read a book, Grigorenko Memoirs by Pyotr Grigorenko Wp→ ISBN 039301570X which has interesting material about Soviet preparedness in this period. His recounting of the dismantling of the defenses of Minsk in accordance with the provisions of the Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Soviet Union is particularly notable. User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:14, 8 September 2012 (MSK)

To be honest I've been surprised that you study soviet history by anti-soviet propagandistic books, but I'd want to let you know beforehand these books contain much doubtful information. If you mean Minsk fortified area then you should know that in 1939 year Soviet state border was moved to West and fortified areas on the old border (including Minsk) lost their importance and were laid up. Provisions of the Treaty of Non-Aggression have nothing to do with this. In addition Georgy Zhukov wrote in his memoirs:

Fortified areas on the old state border were not destroyed and fully disarmed as some memoirs and historic learning aids assert this. They were generally preserved in the all major areas and directions and it was meant to reinforce them additionally.

--ComIntern 21:43, 8 September 2012 (MSK)

You shouldn't be. During the last days of the Soviet Union educated people in the west knew more about the Soviet Union than the members of the politburo. They did not have access to accurate information either during their schooling or as government officials. Gorbachev, for example, did not know that the Baltic states had not voluntarily joined the Soviet Union, as he believed, and relied on. User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:41, 9 September 2012 (MSK)
Unfortunately your educated people knew only the misinformation allowed and encouraged (directly or indirectly) by the US government. Your example illustrates this. Baltic states joined the USSR mostly voluntarily. --ComIntern 18:54, 10 September 2012 (MSK)
That is what Gorbachev learned at Moscow State University and as leader of the Soviet Union relied on in his dealings with them. User:Fred Bauder Talk 00:41, 11 September 2012 (MSK)