User talk:Fred Bauder

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This looks interesting, if not entirely clear. Peter jackson (talk) 10:28, 20 December 2017 (CST) Fred Bauder (talk) 10:55, 20 December 2017 (CST)

It says neutrality and verifiability remain policy, but doesn't seem to provide either definitions or enforcement systems.

Perhaps more interesting is Larry's broader perspective. He seems to be envisaging a system of navigation that would enable people to find and compare articles on a topic anywhere, rather than the current system where articles on obscure websites get ignored, however good they are. If they're considered good by plenty of people they'd get noticed. Details unclear, but it should help us here if it can be got to work. I don't know anything about this technical stuff. Peter jackson (talk) 05:06, 21 December 2017 (CST)

He is mistaken that there are "millions" out there eager to edit. There are thousands... We've learned that. Fred Bauder (talk) 07:43, 21 December 2017 (CST)

Seems like a good place to post your articles. Fred Bauder (talk) 07:42, 21 December 2017 (CST)

There are only thousands willing to edit within the WP system/culture. But what Larry's talking about is people writing anything they like anywhere they like. How many people would be, or already are, willing to post such material, free from interference by other editors? I don't know. You may be right. Certainly Wikinfo, Citizendium and Wikisage don't seem to be attracting much participation. I wonder why not. WP participation has been declining since 2007. Last I heard it was below half peak. Thousands of people have left for various reasons. Where are they all?
The reason I left Wikipedia was its lack of a proper dispute resolution system. There's no clear indication of one in Everipedia yet, so I'll just keep a bit of an eye on it. Peter jackson (talk) 12:13, 21 December 2017 (CST)

Just in case this is of any interest. Peter jackson (talk) 05:39, 8 November 2018 (CST)

Draft recommendations from a WMF working group:

  1. 1.3.2 "At present, the only required “safe space” policy exists for ... change would directly change ... the tenet that “anyone can edit”, replacing it with “anyone can edit who agrees to our code of conduct”."
  2. 2.3a.4 "4.The classic notion of an encyclopaedia and ‘universal knowledge’ needs to be discarded ... The idea of encyclopedic knowledge feels problematic. What is a “universal knowledge”? Who gets to decide what is “universal”? We need to focus on moving from a single center to multiple ones."
  3. 2.3b "It eliminates the western points of view on what is universal knowledge"

Peter jackson (talk) 04:18, 13 August 2019 (CDT)

Latest from Larry: [1]. Peter jackson (talk) 05:21, 26 October 2019 (CDT)

I don't know what to make of that. I suspect any attempt to participate would be fulile but who knows. Fred Bauder (talk) 08:37, 26 October 2019 (CDT)
You might like to keep a lookout at Citizendium: the Founding Editor-in-Chief and Technical Lead might well let us know what we need to know when (if) there's anything to tell us. Peter jackson (talk) 11:42, 28 October 2019 (CDT)

Something else you might find of interest. Peter jackson (talk) 05:02, 16 November 2019 (CST)

Prospective closure of Citizendium

See [2].

You might want to post an invitation for people to come here. Peter jackson (talk) 12:19, 2 January 2020 (CST)